DROD RPG: Tendry's Tale

It's a good RPG and a great side story to DROD that shows how things are on the side of one of Beethro's enemies. I love Tendry's Tale for that, and I hope that they can maybe give something else like this in the future

DROD RPG is a really fun and unique optimization game. It's a concept that seems like it would be tough to make work - essentially a single puzzle that spans many hours and hundreds of rooms. However, the game is very well designed to generally keep things challenging without forcing you to go back and repeat a ton of content - at most you'll need to go back a few rooms, maybe to the start of your current floor. Generally, even if you scrape through a boss with only a little bit of health left and most of your keys gone, you'll be able to beat the next floor still with careful decision making.

It's not like the puzzle DRODs at all.
There is satisfaction getting to the end of a stage, but it took me multiple replays of each stage working out what was to come and then playing through the level.
There are really no clues to help navigate your way through a level. I'm still not sure I used the portable orb in the right place!

I just want to say that this game is great. But before you buy the game, know that you WILL have to restart from the beginning. Multiple times. People in negative reviews seem to describe the game as "trial and error" - which I disagree with. Nothing in this game needs trial and error, with the exception of needing to walk into rooms in order to know what's in them, which is dumb but map progress stays between restarts thankfully. Some custom holds (yes, those exist!) will fix this issue for you which is nice.

This entire game is fully deterministic, so any progress you will make past previous runs you've done will be solely through better play. Optimal decisions can be somewhat ridiculous to calculate, too - so there's almost always room to improve the order in which you make actions far, FAR beyond just beating the hold. For example, it's actually optimal to skip the first shield in the base game, which is very counter-intuitive and the game will actually ridicule you if you don't get it.

Overall, this game is great - but you need a lot of mental fortitude if you want to get anywhere in it. You'll get irrecoverably stuck many times and need to replay the whole game (or at least half of it) again.

Fun concept, however you've got a resource you must carefully manage the whole game: your health. Screw up with health management in the first half of the game, and it becomes impossible to beat when you're expected to tank certain damage to continue. This is what happened to me and I played as carefully as I could. I avoided what enemies I could, and made sure to always get the first hit. Then I got to Rule 6, did everything I could, and found I didn't have the health to tank the boss and continue. I'm not starting all over.

The game would have been so much better if it was redesigned to be linear with each Rule (level) giving you a set amount of health. Mess up and can't beat it? Simply restart the Rule. Of course this means you can't backtrack.

If the idea of being almost certainly forced to restart the game halfway through to better optimize early gameplay sounds fun, and the style of game sounds fun, then check this out.

Do you like DROD? Do you like old-school puzzles-disguised-as-roguelikes like Tower of the Sorcerer or DungeonUp? Voila.

A totally different playstyle, a lot of restarting because it requires some odd math?? but fun anyway and lots of secrets

Highly recommended for fans of puzzle games. Worth the price for the main game alone but the added holds that can be downloaded off Caravel's site makes it even more worthwhile.

I like puzzles and I like RPG games, so I thought I might like this one. I was wrong.

The game is a resource optimization game, where the resource to optimize is your hit points. The combat is entirely deterministic, with tooltips telling you how much HP you will lose fighting the monsters. So if you see a 15HP health potion behind a wraithwing that will take 23 health to kill, optimal strategy is to ignore it until you have better weapon and/or ATK and/or defense. So far so good -- but now suppose the wraithwing is guarding a door which will cost a yellow key to enter. Is it worth paying a net 7 HP plus a yellow key just to see what's on the other side? You can't tell except by trial-and-error.

In my ~1 hour of play I managed to get into a situation where I didn't have enough hitpoints to kill anything else, so game over, start from the beginning and play better this time. The intended playstyle seems to be (1) learn where the good pickups are (2) use your knowledge to plan an optimal route (3) win. But that's not the gameplay I was expecting -- to me trial-and-error is the antithesis of puzzle games and redo-from-start is the antithesis of RPG games. So a "no" from me. Play the other DRODs instead, they are pure puzzle.

Great game indeed. Have to figure out the best way to get through all the doors and monsters. Using least of health and keys.

Friendly interface with unlimited undo in the room and fast save/load helps you concentrate on solving.
While your action is mostly just move in the 8 directions with occasional opportunity to use som a helper item it still provides plenty room for thinking.

To me this is one of the games that feels really unique, like you haven't played anything else like it. It sort of the opposite of Puzzle Quest. In Puzzle Quest, you do RPG things using puzzle mechanics. In DROD RPG, you do puzzle things using RPG mechanics. The whole thing is a giant interconnected puzzle that using deterministic RPG mechanics. The only thing you control is doing things in the right order. The number of choices you have becomes stagering though. It's hard to imagine how a game like this was designed, as it seems like it is extremely balanced. It is possible to play so bad that you have to start the whole game (or at least half of it) over. It happened to me once. It's honestly not as big a deal as it seems though, it's kind of part of the fun. Took me 18 hours to beat.

DROD RPG was a mistake.

I like the DROD series, in concept. And then they go ahead and create puzzles that are just too difficult for me, and I can't skip them. I never got past the 2nd to last area of The City Beneath, they always do this.

DROD RPG is like a standard DROD game, except the enemies don't move, ever. When you bump into them or run your sword into them, you start a back and forth of damage until one of you dies. You can get stat ups and better gear in the dungeon. For the most part, it's interesting and somewhat fun.

Except it's way too easy to play the game in such a way that the game becomes impossible and you have to restart a room, a floor, even the entire game. There are far too many ways for you to dead-end yourself. The difficulty spikes make it easy to lose all your health. Keys are a limited resource that also make it easy to get locked out of rooms and secrets. And if you want to be thorough and get most of the secrets too? Forget it, even more difficult.

I've restarted the 6th floor at least 5 times, restarted the game once, and no matter what I do I keep running into brick walls because of the game design. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone who isn't pursuing a room by room walkthrough, which doesn't exist and wouldn't be that fun anyway. I've given this game enough chances, I'm uninstalling it.

Sorry Caravel Games, but DROD RPG is bad. And I'm less likely to buy games in the series past TCB since your design polices have gone downhill as the years have gone on.

I loved all the DROD puzzle games, but this is a single puzzle spread over multiple levels and hours of play where your first attempts will likely end in unwinnable states requiring a complete restart. Playing correctly requires foreknowlege of the levels. For someone who hates repetition, this is a crime against game design.

DROD RPG is not an RPG. It is better than an RPG.

In DROD RPG, you have stats, health, gear, and the like. And combat is resolved by just pitting these stats against each other, but it is still not an RPG.

For when you boil it down, every enemy has a certain amount of attack, defense, and you have the same. So knowing those stats, you know how much health you lose to fight that enemy. Thus, every enemy is essentially a door that costs health to get through.

And now you understand DROD RPG. It is a resource management puzzle game. You explore each level as much as you can, trying to plan out how to increase your stats and spend health wisely, fighting as few enemies as possible until you have found enough upgrades to render the HP costs trivial. It is a tense, careful game of you weighing your options as much as you can before you make a few moves to get some upgrades and then mop the floor mostly clean for the rest of the filthy lucre. The DROD half of the game shows up in a few gate, force arrow, and trap door puzzles here and there, and the puzzle design is quite good, though they are not the focus.

The only downside to this design is if you played poorly, you usually have to restart the entire floor. The main game is balanced such that even if you scraped by the last boss with about 3 HP remaining you can still come out ahead on the next floor, so you do not need to break out a spreadsheet to play everything super optimally, but if you screw up, you'll usually have to roll back pretty far. That's not that bad a thing; most of the time is exploration and planning. Once you know what to hit, you can redo a floor pretty quickly.

There is one fairly lengthy campaign, broken into two halves with a reset in the middle, with the second half having hugely different design from the first, almost like going from Ys 1 to Ys 2, but the basics are the same. Once you finish with that, you can download custom campaigns from the developer's website, or make your own.

DROD RPG is probably my favorite installment of the DROD series. It is technically an RPG game but could be more appropriately thought of as a gigantic optimisation puzzle. involving intense micromanagement of the usual stats like health, attack power and defence power. If you manage to finish the main campaign, the Caravel Forum contain many more user-created levels you can download, most of which are terribly, terribly difficult. I prefer to play the game using a spreadsheet so I can calculate the optimal path as best as I can.
I can guarantee that this game will not appeal to everyone, but it is absolute crack to fans of complex puzzle-solving!

(Ignore the steam stats, I played this game for countless hours before its steam release.)

One of the things I really liked about the first 2 DROD games was that each puzzle presented you a simple screen with all of the information needed to solve it. When you finished a room it was really finished and you felt good. This game, and the most recent DROD installments, are missing this feeling. You aren't solving rooms anymore you're solving whole levels. I got to Rule 6 and just got too frustrated to keep playing; I was no longer solving a puzzle I was going through trial and error. The difference between the two makes or breaks a puzzle game.

I want to state for the record though that I have bought every DROD game to date and that DROD II is one of my favorite games of all time so I hope people don't take my critique of this game too hashly.

You're probably going to look at this and think... uh... Rogue-like? Final Fantasy clone? There are actually very few games like this. The only one I know about that has the same type of game mechanics is an obscure game called Tower of the Sorceror. This is basically a resource-management puzzle game. You have to logically determine the best order of attacking monsters and collecting power-ups. I'm now playing through it my second time. An ingenious game to be sure, and so much thought has been put into the design. There are no reflexes required--purely turn-based--but turns are performed instantly after you press a key. So it doesn't have the slow pace of other strategy games.

Don't be fooled by the name: this game is not an RPG. It is first and foremost a puzzle game. The title isn't misleading though: DROD has become synonymous with excellency in puzzle games, and RPG means it will appeal to every fan of min-maxing or theorycrafting one can usually find in RPGs.
This is a numbers game wrapped in a pleasant interface, an original soundtrack and a deep backstory sprinkled over all the DROD games. This game is story heavy for a puzzle game, but story light for an RPG: there is no complex story to read or numerous anecdotes and side-quests. The story elements are delivered through voice acting and will make you love Tendry for is panache !
The game is best enjoyed with at least two playthroughs. Saving often and backtracking is an inherent part of the gameplay. You have to strike a balance between going forth to gain knowledge of level layout and going back to better optimize your road.
The DROD series is user content friendly and DROD RPG is no exception: if you liked the game, you can get more !

I highly suggests you visit the official website caravelgames for additional content... including FREE games !

DROD RPG is a terrific and unique puzzle game revolves around the management of health, attack, keys, special one-use items, and more. Choices are obvious at first (fight a roach and take five damage or a wraith and take twenty? hmmm), but options widen with each new encounter and room, leading to a truly staggering number of choices and routes throughout the game. Each route has its advantages and disadvantage, but only a few will leave you with enough health to complete the final challenges and hardest bosses.

It can be frustrating in early stages as you learn the game's "language", that is to say the nature of tradeoffs from each decision and what it truly costs in terms of health or keys to pick up an item or leave it behind, but once you get into the swing of things it makes for an extremely intense and satisfying puzzle experience.

The base game is also split into two halves, with the first half serving partially as a tutorial but also having a completely distinct design style, resulting in both halves of the game being uniquely challenging. On top of this, there are many officially approved expansions freely available from the Caravel Games forums, some of which have even more sadistically precise challenges than the main campaign.

This is a game where you have to use your noggin' to make choices.

If you enjoy using judgement and logic to conserve resources effectively, this is a game you will enjoy.

If you enjoy optimizing mathematical puzzles under the veil of stat-based RPG, this is a game you will enjoy.

This game is like a grid based dungeon crawler, not totally unlike Desktop Dungeons (except not random at all), or Legend of Grimrock (except completely turn-based, with no reflexes required). It's obvious inspiration is Tower of the Sorcerer. You find stuff, stab baddies like goblins and evil brains with a big pointy sword, get stronger, and try to make to the end alive. It's brimming with secrets and you are generally rewarded for not acting rashly, despite the personality of the protagonist.

If you have heard of DROD before, be warned that this game is utterly unlike most entires into the DROD franchise. It's a puzzle game of a different sort, but that's not a bad thing. Less pure logic and more judicial logic. It's a slow burner, but a good game, and it's pretty cheap for how long it'll take you to make it to the end alive. Give it a shot!