STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II - The Sith Lords™

2nd best Star Wars game ever made.

It's just the first game but slightly more... involved?

The first had a better store so that is the deciding point.

One of the best Star Wars experiences I have ever played. Loved the story and the gameplay. 10/10 just as good as the first one if not better!

STAR WARS Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, although a mouthful, is an incredibly complex and grim sequel to the first game. For every A New Hope, there is The Empire Strikes Back, and KOTOR2 is precisely that! It takes what worked from the first, and greatly expanded upon it!

First and foremost, the setting. The narrative and world building are far more dark and dreary than the predecessor, fitting for the name of this sequel. Sith Lords have made a comeback, and are far more numerous than in the first game! Whereas the main villain was Malak in the first, this game is a bit more complicated. You have several major antagonists, and just like in the first, this game has another twist. The world building is a tad more dark, and I find that the settings are more dull or seemingly lifeless compared to the first game, however that is to be expected with the dark direction this story has taken. With Sith Lords everywhere, and war far more rampant, the dreariness is well fit and doesn't take away from the experience. The narrative itself is a lot more complicated than the previous game, although it is still easy enough to follow for young adults. It's just less of a black and white story, and more of shades of grey.

The game plays fairly the same, but with more abilities and a new cast of characters in addition to recurring old characters! You see character growth with recurring characters, far better than you would in the current canon, and new characters that feel just as fleshed out as the band of misfits from the first! This time, the characters are even more varied, and there are even more romance options--some of which lock you out of romance with other characters due to their complete polar opposite personalities! Furthermore, the Dark Side corruption is much more apparent in this game than its sequel, with darkened veins, even darker shading around the eyes, paler skin, and glowing Sith eyes! Your allies do carry this corruption. Of course, just because of this darker setting, doesn't mean you have to follow the Dark Side, as this game is still very open to multiple play-styles, and you can choose to be Grey or strictly Light. This can also reflect on allies, causing them to smile more, color return to their faces, and an overall healthier and smoother look to their skin! This game has even more replay-ability than the first!

All in all, KOTOR2 serves as the perfect sequel to the first KOTOR, and if you've already played the first, this is a must! Even if you haven't, and you're stuck deciding between the two, then perhaps this may appeal to you more if you won't be buying anything else for a long while. This game provides more replay-ability with its many branching paths and it's expansive story.

This game was probably a few months of development away from being one of the greatest RPG's ever made. The philosophy and the writing is top notch. The gameplay was much improved from the original. It introduces many memorable characters that have lived on in fan's hearts for years. However, you can tell that huge portions of the game where either cut out or drastically shortened due to an encroaching deadline. I don't know if this game will ever get the remake treatment it probably deserves, but I hope if it ever does that it'll finally get all the love it deserved.

Also the relatively recent patch that makes it playable on modern machines is amazing. Thank You Obsidian!

While never completed due to time constraints, this is Obsidian's first (that im aware of) smash hit. The foundations of this game set up New Vegas, and there are many comparisons to be made. So needless to say, it outshines its prequel (but not New Vegas). Which is still a very high bar. Its amazing that the studio to make two of the greatest game of my generation, went on the make Outerworlds. Idk what happened to the future, but somewhere between 2005 to 2010, we ended up in the bad timeline

---{ Graphics }---
☐ You forget what reality is
☐ Beautiful
☑ Good
☐ Decent
☐ Bad
☐ Don‘t look too long at it
☐ MS-DOS

---{ Gameplay }---
☑ Very good
☐ Good
☐ It's just gameplay
☐ Mehh
☐ Watch paint dry instead
☐ Just don't

---{ Audio }---
☐ Eargasm
☐ Very good
☑ Good
☐ Not too bad
☐ Bad
☐ I'm now deaf

---{ Audience }---
☐ Kids
☑ Teens
☑ Adults
☐ Grandma

---{ PC Requirements }---
☐ Check if you can run paint
☐ Potato
☑ Decent
☐ Fast
☐ Rich boi
☐ Ask NASA if they have a spare computer

---{ Game Size }---
☐ Floppy Disk
☑ Old Fashioned
☐ Workable
☐ Big
☐ Will eat 15% of your 1TB hard drive
☐ You will want an entire hard drive to hold it
☐ You will need to invest in a black hole to hold all the data

---{ Difficulty }---
☐ Just press 'W'
☐ Easy
☑ Easy to learn / Hard to master
☐ Significant brain usage
☐ Difficult
☐ Dark Souls

---{ Grind }---
☐ Nothing to grind
☐ Only if u care about leaderboards/ranks
☐ Isn't necessary to progress
☑ Average grind level
☐ Too much grind
☐ You'll need a second life for grinding

---{ Story }---
☐ No Story
☐ Some lore
☐ Average
☐ Good
☑ Lovely
☐ It'll replace your life

---{ Game Time }---
☐ Long enough for a cup of coffee
☐ Short
☑ Average
☐ Long
☐ To infinity and beyond

---{ Price }---
☐ It's free!
☑ Worth the price
☐ If it's on sale
☐ If u have some spare money left
☐ Not recommended
☐ You could also just burn your money

---{ Bugs }---
☐ Never heard of
☐ Minor bugs
☑ Can get annoying
☐ ARK: Survival Evolved
☐ The game itself is a big terrarium for bugs

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This is one of the best RPG games of all time imo. I have enjoyed this game on multiple consoles and PC's and it is a go to for me anytime I want some nostalgia.

personally i didn't enjoy it as much as the first game, but it is still awesome. quality RPG.

yeah if you can get past all the freaking bugs and game breaking moments

10/10 easily the best star wars story across any medium for me

make sure you play with the content restored mod tho

SYSTEMS FAILING MASTER

If you want a Star Wars story that challenges it's own concept while having a complicated a relationship with an old lady, this game is for you.

P.S : pazaak is as addictive as gwent

This game. I keep coming back to this unfinished beauty of a game. Across multiple separate hardware set ups, platforms and times in my life i keep coming back to this.

I just like the story really, gameplay is easy enough for me watch TV and play it at the same time. happy days

Ofcourse i'd recommend this game, but I'm not I'm not gonna force it down your throat... I didn't choose that power on this playthrough.

bioware used to be seriously

kotor is their best game

this one is pretty much the same thing but a bit uglier and sillier

It can not possible get better than this. Peak Star Wars video gaming. Runs great on my M16 R2, just had to use nvidia profile inspector to reduce the fps below 60 and no issues!

Where do you begin when describing one of the greatest games ever made? I've been returning to this incredible, nostalgia-laden gem since it was on Xbox. The player-created mods have only advanced and rounded out edges that the production failed to polish to it's newfound perfection. This game is an incredible example of a dying genre of rich, story-driven games that centered themselves on quality instead of cash-grabbing. Each layer of this game is created by your choices as you move through an intergalactic world of mystery and intrigue one morality-driven choice at a time. This game achieves a level of excellence rarely found in games throughout history, and almost never found in modern gaming which is so high FPS-driven. Anyone reading this is probably returning to once again to relive the experience, and for you, welcome back. I promise you it will be as good as the last time you picked this up. If you are lucky enough to be playing this for the first time, I couldn't be happier for you or more excited for this adventure into this magical world. May The Force Be With You.

Every RPG fan needs to play both Knights of the Old Republic games. This sequel improves upon some gameplay features, but both are absolutely worth it for the story and characters alone.

I can't review this games I use so many mods to fix it but im use to it I shock how good this story was but kinda felt empty when I beat it because the story end without a 3rd one

For the first time, I don't even know what to say. But I feel I must say something. So here it goes... "It's a MASTERPIECE! Plain and simple!" Though the game itself is not as plain and simple as it may seem, considering the Star Wars universe. It's full of shadows and undertones. You can't be so sure of anyone or anything, contrary to KOTOR One, where the stakes and pretty much everything were already known right from the beginning. And I could write a huge sheet about this game...

I WILL NOT! This game can speak for itself if you dare to give it a try yourself. The only question is... Will you dare?! In case you do, don't forget to include Restored Content. It's mandatory at this point. And may the Force be with you!

One of my absolute favourite games!! Definitely needs the restored content mod but fantastic game and characters

if you are into modding it can be really fun but i would say play the game one time with no mods to get the hang of the game first before installing any mods including the all of restore content mods you might have peferred the game without the planet M7-48 i mean its bring you more story but that planet makes you feel like you need to a rocket scientist to find master vash or maybe thats just me but its good lots childhood memoreis definitely a top star wars game in my book

if you know abt kotor you are already aware both games are stupendous. play the game, use the restored content mod

Somehow ran better for me than the first game. Even though I would say its not as good as the first game. A definite must play.

This is a classic game that still holds value and many hours of great gameplay.

KotOR II is my favourite game of all time. There is no end to the amount of praise I could heap onto this game, with its superb dialogue, voice acting, character writing and fundamental understanding of the RPG genre. In an era that sees the Star Wars IP devastated by incompetent yes-men and ideologues, this game shines that much brighter as a beacon of the potential this universe has for competent, nuanced storytelling. A must-play, even for those who aren't fans of Star Wars.

My favorite starwars story, for it's darkness, depth, and adversity to the typical starwars story.

One of my favorite games of all time. Plays great on SteamDeck. Just buy it. Turn all your friends into Jedi. Ignore everything Kreia says and tell her to shut up.

KOTOR 2 has a big tonal shift compared to its predecessor, one i was not ready for coming fresh from the first game. I personally prefer the original but i think it's pretty undeniable that this one has better writing and more complex characters. There's one character in particular that steals the show, you'll know which one by the end. And by the end i mean the mod that adds the ending to the game since it isn't in originally due to deadline. Make sure to install this one before playing as the game will feel incomplete without it!

I've probably got 100, 200 hours played when combined with the original DVD version and the Android version. It's one of the best stories ever told in a video game and definitely the best Star Wars content I've seen.

Great game, sad that it was never finished, still pretty good especially with some mods. I didn't enjoy it as much as the last game, I feel like the Protaganist of this game lives in the shadow of Revan from the last, also IDK if its just me, but the companions were far less interesting than the last game. The only two I really liked were Kreia, and Vissis.

The good ol' days when Bioware and Obsidian were actually competing to make good games.

Love this game. It is kinda hard to play on a new system sadly

Childhood Classic with the ability to play the cut content was awesome. I'm looking forward to play more

Just like the first game, KOTOR II is clunky and outdated in some regards (get mods like Restored Content mod), but is absolutely worth playing because of its terrific story, character development, and atmosphere.

Its tone is noticeably different from the first game--KOTOR I has a much more optimistic and traditional plot, while TSL has a darker, more introspective story. Many characters are disillusioned with both the Jedi and Sith, seeing them as two sides to the same coin. There's a lot to unpack in the different characters' feelings towards both factions, exploring their philosophies and motivations was fascinating and offered a more complex narrative than what I'm used to in Star Wars games. The tone of KOTOR I really encourages a light side play style (for me), whereas KOTOR II's darker, morally ambiguous narrative blurs the line, which adds new perspective to the decision-making and role-playing for me.

If you enjoyed the first game, TSL is definitely worth playing.

good great game. Beat it on xbox and did a sith run. got so overpowered near the end and destroyed everyone. very fun and lots of ways to customize your character like your lightsaber.

While the game requires modding to fully appreciate in it's whole and intended way, the experience has been wonderful! My only qualms as of now are the lack of any gauge that shows your companions' influence and an almost game-breaking bug that I encountered partway through the moon of Nar Shaddaa. After a quest, I didn't get an item required to move on with the story and rescue my jedi, so I had to use the command console to skip forward forcefully. But I admit, those are quite small qualms for me, and overall I think more people need to experience this masterpiece!

KOTOR came out in 2003, and the sequel was even better than the first. We learn more about the Republic before the Battle of Yavin and the Rise of the Galactic Empire...no matter how old the game gets, it is still an amazing game to play over and over again.

I can see why everyone enjoyed this back when it was new. For people who got this for the first time, you might want to force limit the fps. This game doesn't like high frame rate and bugs your controls after every battle until a limit is set. Sometimes after playing it for a while the dialog will skip, this is a memory leak, quitting and launching the game tends to fix it.

The best Star Wars story, in all honesty. At least accounting for the video games.

A tad bit broken on a technical level, and unfinished on a narrative level, so make sure to install the Restored Content mod 10/10 times.
Gameplay is an improvement over the first on almost all levels, the story is more dark, more mature, and covers deep subjects in a complex manner.
Whilst the first KOTOR would place you in a classic tale of good vs evil, akin to the original trilogy, KOTOR 2 delves deeper into the everyday lives of common people living in the Star Wars universe, how they perceive the main characters of these stories, and most importantly, the impact that wars and endless conflicts have on said characters. You will slowly peel back the surface layers of every one of your crewmates, in proportion to your interest in them. They are far from straightforward, often harboring feelings of deep regret and an ever-present trauma that seems to have them stuck either in a perpetual cycle of self-hatred, or the inability to move on to find their place in the galaxy.

Those are the main topics of KOTOR 2: the trauma of war, the suffering so deeply embedded into everyone who actively participated in war, or those who suffered as victims of war. And true hope lies within each and everyone, coming to grips with these internal struggles, seeing the purpose in this self-reflection offering them strength, and using this strength to guide future generations. Never too late to do the right thing, accept the past.

(If that wasn't obvious enough, I want you to play this game, regardless of its shortcomings.)

The story of the game is not quite as strong as KOTOR 1, and the game is honestly not fully finished. But I still think this is an amazing game and has aged like fine wine. It improved upon many aspects from the original, and made it feel more like a true Star Wars RPG. I hope one day the concept for KOTOR 1/2 is revisited by developers, because I think the concept and story has potential to be a mainstay for a modern Star Wars game if done correctly. Especially if they continue it by capitalizing on the hype from the Fallen Order games.

If you have never played KOTOR before, I highly recommend starting with 1 and moving on to this game. They are quite fun to play and explore on your own for the first time and offer many different builds/styles to play through the game.

Sadly cannot be modded on linux, both native and through proton have problems that make the game unplayable on linux.

Arguably one of the best classic rpgs of all time, and THE best Star Wars rpg ever released, KOTOR 2 is the only place you'll be ever to fulfill your Jedi/Sith powerful fantasy, or fall somewhere in between. Set during the High Republic, mercifully thousands of years before any Skywalker graced the galaxy, you create your character forge your own path through different planets, factions, and alliances to bring your version of order to the galaxy.

The Odyssey Engine is the most janky and tedious experience in RPG gaming history.

If you queue an action at range from an enemy (for instance, "Use a medpac") sometimes your character will walk into the enemy mob, attack and then use a medpac. There's also an issue with how combat turns are balanced...sometimes the game will spawn six or eight enemies in front of you after a cutscene. The game will give you control back and twelve to thirteen floating point numbers will tell you that you've been hit 6 times before you could queue in one action. These "front-facing, post-cutscene skirmishes" are some of the worst battles, because sometimes you'll be 'debuffed' from standing around chatting or lose positional advantages from being teleported to where the cutscene wants you to stand.

Now...the pause system at play in the Odyssey engine does allow you execute your personal strategies most of the time, but basic things like movement commands, pathing and target selection are geared towards the player using a controller. That is to say: issuing and positioning your characters is absolutely pointless and thus a big part of the RPG combat experience in the KOTOR games is non-existent. Most of the time in tough fights you either need to be completely overpowered for the encounters in question or run away and kite enemies with one character.

It's not a lot of fun, to say the least...

The first game has all these exact same problems, but it also has the added bonus of an extremely overrated and generic redemption story at its heart. I've never been interested in replaying the first KOTOR game after all these years. In fact, sometimes I'm convinced the only reason people are Star Wars fans is because they want to chop up their parents with swords or something; KOTOR 1 reads exactly like that kind of fantasy put to work. Fandom fantasies aside though, both games also have a huge problem with really generic environments and a lot of boring-ass fetch quests.

On the plus side: this sequel has a much, much, much, much, much, much...

MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH...

...more interesting narrative involving a Jedi Master named "Kreia", who is not a mysterious wizard with a plot twist under her robe; rather, she is a cantankerous teacher who will unceremoniously boot you out of her classroom after lecturing you. It actually pains me to state this, but the story in KOTOR 2 is good enough to make you forgive the Odyssey Engine for all its flaws.

Whereas the first Knights of the Old Republic is (for better or worse) a Darth Vader / Luke Skywalker simulator, this second game actually carries a strange philosophical tension throughout the story. The writing in The Sith Lords can be obtuse, but once you grasp the picture Obsidian (in this case Chris Avellone) is trying to paint, a lot of past conversations and interactions you had in the first hours of the game gain an added depth. Personally, I think Pillars of Eternity or New Vegas are Obsidian's greatest works, but the narrative threads about reincarnation, conflict and cooperation are all here in KOTOR 2.

It's really too bad the combat in The Sith Lords is so dated...and that fans seem more interested in a remake of the first game instead of continuing the story. Despite all its insanely frustrating gameplay flaws, KOTOR 2 really deserves more attention within the Star Wars canon.

One of the greatest RPGs ever made. Great story, greater characters.

If there would be mod to get rid of G0-T0 and Kreia's self insert Chris Avellone stupid, hypocritical, nihilistic, borderline libertarian, pretentious hot takes about morality, philosophy, force, politics, etc. etc. Game would be 9/10 without a doubt. Of course it would still have these one sided, caricature like jedi council members being completely unlikable bunch of ignorant morons, with stupid reasons for being so hostile to exile, just to make avellone's self insert - kreia look brilliant and omniscient.
Still it's good game and with restoration mod and bug fix patches there is a lot of fun. I mean it has HK-47, this alone makes it worth playing especially with restore cut content mod.

The best star wars RPG hands down. Get the Restoration mod in the workshop to help make it stable. I promise you wont regret it. (DONT GO TO THE DROID PLANET NOT WORTH IT). Other than that, the voice acting, writing...PEAK. GAME IS GOLD

So its a bit jank

But it is hella fun. I am going to play with the restored content patch next time ^^

pretty good
dark side is comical levels of evil it's fun
light side is just being a space mormon

This is a good game. But UI and gameplay has not aged so well. It is fun but slow paced. Characters and story are still holding up very well. Some fights are insanely hard.

oldschool masterpiece,, story is awesome,, 10/10

Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm.

Wow this game's pretty easy huh?

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