STAR WARS™ Knights of the Old Republic™ II - The Sith Lords™

if you are into modding it can be really fun but i would say play the game one time with no mods to get the hang of the game first before installing any mods including the all of restore content mods you might have peferred the game without the planet M7-48 i mean its bring you more story but that planet makes you feel like you need to a rocket scientist to find master vash or maybe thats just me but its good lots childhood memoreis definitely a top star wars game in my book

if you know abt kotor you are already aware both games are stupendous. play the game, use the restored content mod

Somehow ran better for me than the first game. Even though I would say its not as good as the first game. A definite must play.

This is a classic game that still holds value and many hours of great gameplay.

KotOR II is my favourite game of all time. There is no end to the amount of praise I could heap onto this game, with its superb dialogue, voice acting, character writing and fundamental understanding of the RPG genre. In an era that sees the Star Wars IP devastated by incompetent yes-men and ideologues, this game shines that much brighter as a beacon of the potential this universe has for competent, nuanced storytelling. A must-play, even for those who aren't fans of Star Wars.

My favorite starwars story, for it's darkness, depth, and adversity to the typical starwars story.

One of my favorite games of all time. Plays great on SteamDeck. Just buy it. Turn all your friends into Jedi. Ignore everything Kreia says and tell her to shut up.

KOTOR 2 has a big tonal shift compared to its predecessor, one i was not ready for coming fresh from the first game. I personally prefer the original but i think it's pretty undeniable that this one has better writing and more complex characters. There's one character in particular that steals the show, you'll know which one by the end. And by the end i mean the mod that adds the ending to the game since it isn't in originally due to deadline. Make sure to install this one before playing as the game will feel incomplete without it!

I've probably got 100, 200 hours played when combined with the original DVD version and the Android version. It's one of the best stories ever told in a video game and definitely the best Star Wars content I've seen.

Great game, sad that it was never finished, still pretty good especially with some mods. I didn't enjoy it as much as the last game, I feel like the Protaganist of this game lives in the shadow of Revan from the last, also IDK if its just me, but the companions were far less interesting than the last game. The only two I really liked were Kreia, and Vissis.

The good ol' days when Bioware and Obsidian were actually competing to make good games.

Love this game. It is kinda hard to play on a new system sadly

Childhood Classic with the ability to play the cut content was awesome. I'm looking forward to play more

Just like the first game, KOTOR II is clunky and outdated in some regards (get mods like Restored Content mod), but is absolutely worth playing because of its terrific story, character development, and atmosphere.

Its tone is noticeably different from the first game--KOTOR I has a much more optimistic and traditional plot, while TSL has a darker, more introspective story. Many characters are disillusioned with both the Jedi and Sith, seeing them as two sides to the same coin. There's a lot to unpack in the different characters' feelings towards both factions, exploring their philosophies and motivations was fascinating and offered a more complex narrative than what I'm used to in Star Wars games. The tone of KOTOR I really encourages a light side play style (for me), whereas KOTOR II's darker, morally ambiguous narrative blurs the line, which adds new perspective to the decision-making and role-playing for me.

If you enjoyed the first game, TSL is definitely worth playing.

good great game. Beat it on xbox and did a sith run. got so overpowered near the end and destroyed everyone. very fun and lots of ways to customize your character like your lightsaber.

While the game requires modding to fully appreciate in it's whole and intended way, the experience has been wonderful! My only qualms as of now are the lack of any gauge that shows your companions' influence and an almost game-breaking bug that I encountered partway through the moon of Nar Shaddaa. After a quest, I didn't get an item required to move on with the story and rescue my jedi, so I had to use the command console to skip forward forcefully. But I admit, those are quite small qualms for me, and overall I think more people need to experience this masterpiece!

KOTOR came out in 2003, and the sequel was even better than the first. We learn more about the Republic before the Battle of Yavin and the Rise of the Galactic Empire...no matter how old the game gets, it is still an amazing game to play over and over again.

I can see why everyone enjoyed this back when it was new. For people who got this for the first time, you might want to force limit the fps. This game doesn't like high frame rate and bugs your controls after every battle until a limit is set. Sometimes after playing it for a while the dialog will skip, this is a memory leak, quitting and launching the game tends to fix it.

The best Star Wars story, in all honesty. At least accounting for the video games.

A tad bit broken on a technical level, and unfinished on a narrative level, so make sure to install the Restored Content mod 10/10 times.
Gameplay is an improvement over the first on almost all levels, the story is more dark, more mature, and covers deep subjects in a complex manner.
Whilst the first KOTOR would place you in a classic tale of good vs evil, akin to the original trilogy, KOTOR 2 delves deeper into the everyday lives of common people living in the Star Wars universe, how they perceive the main characters of these stories, and most importantly, the impact that wars and endless conflicts have on said characters. You will slowly peel back the surface layers of every one of your crewmates, in proportion to your interest in them. They are far from straightforward, often harboring feelings of deep regret and an ever-present trauma that seems to have them stuck either in a perpetual cycle of self-hatred, or the inability to move on to find their place in the galaxy.

Those are the main topics of KOTOR 2: the trauma of war, the suffering so deeply embedded into everyone who actively participated in war, or those who suffered as victims of war. And true hope lies within each and everyone, coming to grips with these internal struggles, seeing the purpose in this self-reflection offering them strength, and using this strength to guide future generations. Never too late to do the right thing, accept the past.

(If that wasn't obvious enough, I want you to play this game, regardless of its shortcomings.)

The story of the game is not quite as strong as KOTOR 1, and the game is honestly not fully finished. But I still think this is an amazing game and has aged like fine wine. It improved upon many aspects from the original, and made it feel more like a true Star Wars RPG. I hope one day the concept for KOTOR 1/2 is revisited by developers, because I think the concept and story has potential to be a mainstay for a modern Star Wars game if done correctly. Especially if they continue it by capitalizing on the hype from the Fallen Order games.

If you have never played KOTOR before, I highly recommend starting with 1 and moving on to this game. They are quite fun to play and explore on your own for the first time and offer many different builds/styles to play through the game.

Sadly cannot be modded on linux, both native and through proton have problems that make the game unplayable on linux.

Arguably one of the best classic rpgs of all time, and THE best Star Wars rpg ever released, KOTOR 2 is the only place you'll be ever to fulfill your Jedi/Sith powerful fantasy, or fall somewhere in between. Set during the High Republic, mercifully thousands of years before any Skywalker graced the galaxy, you create your character forge your own path through different planets, factions, and alliances to bring your version of order to the galaxy.

The Odyssey Engine is the most janky and tedious experience in RPG gaming history.

If you queue an action at range from an enemy (for instance, "Use a medpac") sometimes your character will walk into the enemy mob, attack and then use a medpac. There's also an issue with how combat turns are balanced...sometimes the game will spawn six or eight enemies in front of you after a cutscene. The game will give you control back and twelve to thirteen floating point numbers will tell you that you've been hit 6 times before you could queue in one action. These "front-facing, post-cutscene skirmishes" are some of the worst battles, because sometimes you'll be 'debuffed' from standing around chatting or lose positional advantages from being teleported to where the cutscene wants you to stand.

Now...the pause system at play in the Odyssey engine does allow you execute your personal strategies most of the time, but basic things like movement commands, pathing and target selection are geared towards the player using a controller. That is to say: issuing and positioning your characters is absolutely pointless and thus a big part of the RPG combat experience in the KOTOR games is non-existent. Most of the time in tough fights you either need to be completely overpowered for the encounters in question or run away and kite enemies with one character.

It's not a lot of fun, to say the least...

The first game has all these exact same problems, but it also has the added bonus of an extremely overrated and generic redemption story at its heart. I've never been interested in replaying the first KOTOR game after all these years. In fact, sometimes I'm convinced the only reason people are Star Wars fans is because they want to chop up their parents with swords or something; KOTOR 1 reads exactly like that kind of fantasy put to work. Fandom fantasies aside though, both games also have a huge problem with really generic environments and a lot of boring-ass fetch quests.

On the plus side: this sequel has a much, much, much, much, much, much...

MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH...

...more interesting narrative involving a Jedi Master named "Kreia", who is not a mysterious wizard with a plot twist under her robe; rather, she is a cantankerous teacher who will unceremoniously boot you out of her classroom after lecturing you. It actually pains me to state this, but the story in KOTOR 2 is good enough to make you forgive the Odyssey Engine for all its flaws.

Whereas the first Knights of the Old Republic is (for better or worse) a Darth Vader / Luke Skywalker simulator, this second game actually carries a strange philosophical tension throughout the story. The writing in The Sith Lords can be obtuse, but once you grasp the picture Obsidian (in this case Chris Avellone) is trying to paint, a lot of past conversations and interactions you had in the first hours of the game gain an added depth. Personally, I think Pillars of Eternity or New Vegas are Obsidian's greatest works, but the narrative threads about reincarnation, conflict and cooperation are all here in KOTOR 2.

It's really too bad the combat in The Sith Lords is so dated...and that fans seem more interested in a remake of the first game instead of continuing the story. Despite all its insanely frustrating gameplay flaws, KOTOR 2 really deserves more attention within the Star Wars canon.

One of the greatest RPGs ever made. Great story, greater characters.

If there would be mod to get rid of G0-T0 and Kreia's self insert Chris Avellone stupid, hypocritical, nihilistic, borderline libertarian, pretentious hot takes about morality, philosophy, force, politics, etc. etc. Game would be 9/10 without a doubt. Of course it would still have these one sided, caricature like jedi council members being completely unlikable bunch of ignorant morons, with stupid reasons for being so hostile to exile, just to make avellone's self insert - kreia look brilliant and omniscient.
Still it's good game and with restoration mod and bug fix patches there is a lot of fun. I mean it has HK-47, this alone makes it worth playing especially with restore cut content mod.

The best star wars RPG hands down. Get the Restoration mod in the workshop to help make it stable. I promise you wont regret it. (DONT GO TO THE DROID PLANET NOT WORTH IT). Other than that, the voice acting, writing...PEAK. GAME IS GOLD

So its a bit jank

But it is hella fun. I am going to play with the restored content patch next time ^^

pretty good
dark side is comical levels of evil it's fun
light side is just being a space mormon

This is a good game. But UI and gameplay has not aged so well. It is fun but slow paced. Characters and story are still holding up very well. Some fights are insanely hard.

oldschool masterpiece,, story is awesome,, 10/10

Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm. Force Storm.

Wow this game's pretty easy huh?

Force Storm. Force Sto-...

I reference this game every third conversation in my daily life. It is both a master class in how to write philosophical, morally challenging characters and making a game worth playing despite being unfinished. It being unfinished can be somewhat mitigated by mods, but i've always found it to still be superior in its unfinished form. I replay KOTOR 1 more often, but i think about KOTOR 2 more often. KOTOR 1 is a very complete "Star Wars Experience", but KOTOR 2 is what Rian Johnson wanted to make with The Last Jedi. It challenges every convention of the Star Wars universe and things held sacred. This opinion is an old one for anyone that grew up with the pre-Disney Old Canon of Star Wars, but might be new for younger fans. Kreia is probably one of the best examples of an anti-villain that i can think of in fiction. Obsidian is a developer that I follow often for their dialogue and philosophical musings and consider many of their games to be among my favorite RPGS.

This game introduces amazing philosophies on the nature of power and what it means to wield said power. Learned a lot about myself playing this game. Its fine.

Finally got around to finishing this when Nar Shaddaa caused massive burnout on me, this was a really interesting game with a great deconstruction on the whole belief system of the setting.
The Restored Content Mod can't fix some of the issues it has.

Any time a conversation is happening? Most interesting time ever.
The gameplay? Obviously not very engaging but it was fun getting force powers that just crowd control the hell out of everything, and the stances are a neat idea too.

Some of the dungeons or extended sequences in this game could be very long and draining where I feel this type of combat is better suited for minimal encounters that are more difficult.

I played on easy but I never really saw much vision for speccing into stuff like stealth or demolitions either.

Gonna look into what I didn't see as a result of my playthrough.

I appreciate the variety of cast members on display and the number of them, but doing Nar Shaddaa as one of the last things made getting 2 party members there a very odd experience without much time to get to know them at all.

The structure of the game also made switching party members infrequent.

And with the amount of variety sections or moments where you're locked out/very far away from your ship, the encouragement to swap members was also bare.

Maybe I missed something but also not much content behind a fair few of them either?
They're all a lot more interesting than you'd expect though.

Namely (and obviously), Kreia.
A mouthpiece of the writers for both critique of you as a player and the concept of the force and cultures around it (boy does it not hold back on either, frustratingly so at times for the player lol).

At times it can feel like she's seesawing to be contrarian but hey.

The return to Dantooine scene at the academy might be of my favourite game story reveals ever, amazing directing usage of Bioware's Odyssey Engine on top of the themes surrounding your characters nature.
11/10 emotional reaction from me.

I wish the game got the time it deserved in development and that it was the standard of writing in SW.

Probably the best single player Star Wars RPG out there in my opinion. Mandatory game for any lover of Star Wars or RPG's in general. There are few games that do player-character interaction as well as KOTOR, making the characters on your team memorable even years later. Iconic.
Make sure you also pick up the "Sith Lords Restored Content Mod", which really improves the game further by re-adding previously cut content due to time limitations in development.

Absolutely defined my childhood. I still remember Christmas when it came out driving to my dads house reading through the manual. God I wish they made more, the mmo no way fills that void. I should have named my character darth plaguis because them never making a third single player game is the true tragedy of plaguis the wise.

This game is pretty sweet for being 20+ years old. It's a really solid sequel to the first game.

If you're on an all AMD system like me you will need to turn the resolution down to avoid the character freezing bug after combat. I have all the graphics settings on max with all options enabled except for that. I got it to work correctly at 1600x900 @ 60hz. Hope this helps and enjoy the game!

Install restored content mods, enjoy peak star wars philosophy and some good ideas in an old janky package

The Best Star Wars RPG, shame it is in an unfinished state but if you can get hold of the restored content Mod then it is a more complete experience.

Wanted to play this back in the day for the original Xbox. Probably one of the best Star Wars D&D style RPGs. It does a really good job at letting you choose how you wanna play, whether that be a malevolent or benevolent character. It has some improvements in combat/menu-ing and QoL. The story is actually surprisingly darker than most other Star Wars games.

The game DOES have modern improvements despite its mid 2000s release. Unlike KOTOR 1, it plays really well on modern systems and comes with some mod support. The Restored Content Mod is the most popular but honestly, I can see why that content was cut. The missions that come with it are either unbalanced or uninteresting. They don't really add anything to the game.

I finished this game today, and I can easily say that I had a great time. It may an older roleplaying game which doesn't get as much attention compared to something like the fallout games. But it still holds up very well, and could be easily enjoyed if you're either a Star Wars fan or a roleplaying game fan.

Holy moley amazing guacamole~

This game is fun, it is dated which can be seen by memory leaks (play a session too long and voice lines starts auto skipping, just exit game and re-launch it), as well as not having a sheath option for weapons so you always run around with your weapons out (Seeing a squad member fly a spaceship presing buttons with a giant cannon in their hand)

But it is a whole bunch of fun, make sure to go to the workshop to get the mods though, the most downloaded top one fixes a bunch of bugs, makes the game look better and restores some cut content.

Beat this game for the first time over 10 years ago on the original Xbox. It holds up 'alright' on the PC. Not bad, not as amazing as the first one. The game feels rushed. Could be more drawn out as a whole and the characters could be given more personality like the first one. If you're a Star Wars nerd, it's worth the play.

i am such a HUGE fan of the first KOTOR and have played through it a million times. it is the single most impactful gaming experience of my life. BUT, this sequel unfortunately does not live up to the legacy of the first, missing out on the beautiful story, character building, and progression the first game build. i plan on eventually giving this game a full playthrough, but my 70 hours has not led me to believe this game is worth a playthrough.

As long as you use the restored content mod and a few others to optimize for modern systems i would say this game improves upon the first and is extremely replayable... Except for peragus that part can burn.

I have mixed feelings about this game it truly is a great game BUT besides the writing being spotty at times and even with all the patches\mods it will always have a chance to bug out on you. The only thing I could say is play at your own risk and keep a lot of saves, throw in some bug fix mods before you play. It's a darker game than the first game but all the Star Wars goodness is here, absolutely recommend it... with a warning tag.

The sequel to one of the greatest RPGs ever made and it just so happens to be Star Wars, KOTOR 1 shown the lightside of the galaxy and how bright and optimistic it can be. KOTOR 2 Shows all that is wrong with the galaxy.

Anybody that is at least remotely interested in Star Wars, or even just Sci-Fi in general, should absolutely and definitely play this game. It is, without a doubt, one of the best games ever made, period, and definitely the best content that has ever spawned out of the Star Wars franchise.

11/10. Legendary game.

classic game I have played for hundreds of hours. replay every few years. even better with mods

Excellent game with restored content and other modes. Steam workshop support means you can install these with a few clicks, no fuss at all!