Industry Giant 4.0

After the 0.5.1 update I have to give this a thumbs up! The game still needs many improvements, But its heading in the right direction...

have some improvement areas but it is promising

I would put a finger up just to make sure devs would be more inspired and addressed all the issues. Overall direction to make more advance tweaking, new mechanics and 3D is nice but as huge fan of IG2 and other tycoon fans but this game have 2 major issues:
- UI/UX it feels like devs are not playing tycoon game and games in general. I have a strong feel of influence from web design of 2000s but main issue is like everything organized. Strange menus, strange drag n drops, HUD is confusing etc. I would order a UX help for update.
- Gameloop. You should start from basic and unflod more complex and complex mechanics. IG2 was telling you like hay here is chicken farm, here is storage and here is the shop. Make it work. And here they asked you right away to build a complex logistic system with UI that made you close the game.

Before you make simple loop works and be convenient to be played without tutorial make no sense to add content or try to fix tutorial etc (btw tutorial is misleading and have inconsistency with what written to do and what is actually show/have to). Good luck!

Hvala za Hrvatski jezik, inače Hrvatska još nije u Europi ali kad bude vjerojatno budete dodali i Hrvatski jezik.

Quite faithful to how I remember IG2, and yet a whole lot better!

Although the game isn't finished and is still in development, I enjoyed a few hours playing non-stop.

There is a great deal of potential in this game. I have not played earlier versions, but the snap grid and overall concept has a similarity to Workers & Resources only a bit easier. The graphics are decent, I played the tutorial which was very well laid out. The game isn't too overwhelming to get into initially which is very nice. However, once you get your initial fruits or veggies system going and start making some money, it really becomes....blah for lack of a better phrase. The terrain is the worst part, when placing a building, the game plants it flat on a semi-plateau with sharp declines in the opposing elevations like something out of an old SC2 game. The terrain editing tools don't really seem to do much to help, the ideas are there but implementation is not. The limited space in each "region" which only allows one or two certain types of industries, is a decent game play mechanic for planning, but there simply is not enough room compared to the size of buildings and roads to make this reasonable. It feels like you're playing with infant's tyco blocks on a lego building mat if that makes sense. There's some work to be done here before any reasonable amount of gameplay can occur, but I do like what I see so far. Like I said, potential....pick it up on discount, you may get a day or two of play before you get bored in current state.

Just another game

One "feature" makes this game completely unplayable and not enjoyable.
That i MUST fulfull the demand of the cities and products that are not in demand get not bought at all. Crap. The previous game Industry Giant 2 was so much better with the freedom of building your desired production chains and had so much more to offer, and you were not limited by a "demand ONLY" crap. I hope that this BS changes. I loved this game in the past but the new game is currently unplayable for me.

Buy it on a sale, its like a different Transport fever, where you build the industry. Its nothing ground braking yet, but i definitely want to see what does it evolve into.

After only a dozen hours or so, this game, by a country mile, holds the record for my "Rage Quits". Its probably the most frustrating game I've ever played. Yet, master it and it will give you quite a bit of satisfaction as a result.

Yes it has weird factory to map size ratio's and yes it has a tedious user management system and yes its annoying that you don't get any inclination when placing factories whether road and rail interfaces are going to work with the rest of your economy and for sure, its too expensive in its current form. But it will, if you give it chance, provide a little fun when you make it succeed. You just need to be willing to quit and restart the map frequently till you get the basics sorted.

Unfortunately, I'm not. Hence the rage quit record. But others may be happy with it. Since Steam never allows a "neutral" recommendation, For me, its going to have to be a "not recommended" in its current state of development and cost. But seriously, its worth a try if you like investing time in figuring out a new game. I'm going to keep trying for a while yet and who knows maybe it will become obvious further in, why the freakin thing is so.......teutonically annoying......

good game.
* there is just a problem to manage many trains, traffic blocking, trains do not choose short tracks. when the train traffic increases, train management started to be wrong

* productions are limited with size and quantity, maybe another way to manage production

I really want this game to be better.
Let's hope the dev can get the help they need to do that.

Played IG1 and IG2, admittedly wasnt very good at either of them due to being so young and not really in the mindset, but IG4 has been fun so far, has quite a few kinks to iron out but until I run into something gamebreaking or detrimental to my gameplay experience it gets a thumbs up for me

Just makes me laugh when the hyper-autists downvote the shit out of an early access game to try and kill it as fast as possible, let them cook, provide feedback on the discord - dont obliterate the game rating until they REFUSE to fix things

I regret every moment of the 13 hours I tried to find some enjoyment in this game. Feels like a hollow empty shell with really badly implemented mechanics or simply bad design decisions such as "number of items to be transported per year".

I am certain it has reduced my life expectancy

Nice business simulation. Have already played the old ones, the new one plays differently but is still a good Tycoon game.

Even after 2 weeks, no advanced products, bugs where you can't delete transportation lines...it's as though they never played IG1 or 2 and just winged it. Disappointed and wondering why they even bothered. What a waste of everyone's time.

Highly not recommended
1.Very stupid transport route design feature，no parallel lines，no railroad switches，No signal light
2.The industrial placement system is more retarded
3.Inexplicable transit time Settings, can trains become high-speed trains?
4.Complexity for the sake of complexity
5.There are more pop-ups on the screen than there are ads for my phone
6.What is the meaning of the average seasonal production setting, will the wood freeze to death？
7.Pointless zoning. Are you environmentalists?
8.This game doesn't balance numbers at all, it's going to break in production, so tell me how long is the shelf life? How to estimate redundancy output?
9.Railway transport system design is completely amateurish
10.windows 98-like modeling
11.How dare you sell it for so much?

It's a version of Fever Transport but it's really bad, I regret spending my money on this game. I've always been a fan of Giant Industry. But this game is not worth it, honestly. I feel sorry for the creators, but they should honestly create demos so we can try the games before buying them, the video game industry is taking us users for a ride.

Refund requested and denied because i was not able to request it straight away due to other commitments, if you're expecting Transport Fever or Workers and Resources then this is not that, in fact unless you're brand new to the genre then you will likely be very disappointed, Industry giant 2 was leaps and bounds better to play, the map sizes are tiny, the assets, factories etc are huge and the scale just feels all wrong, i understand this game is early access but i just cant see what they were aiming for, other games so many other games to choose, at the moment for me, this just is not deserving of the title of its predecessor, its way off the mark, maybe i over estimated, im stuck with it now, ill check on it next year perhaps

I am an old school IG2 player ( bought on release! ) and this is exactly how i would expect IG to evolve, you guys are doing a great job so far and i can see the bones of the game is really good, i look forward to watching it grow.
But please open it up to modding if possible it will propel the game far

funny game to play

Still needs some content but solid for early access

It is not Industry Giant.

They try to foster the feeling of IG, but they dont achieve it, here is why:

The overall athmosphere is ok. Sound design is well made.
Graphics good.

But.. it is this kind of "made easier instead of focussing on its core gameplay".
It is a management game. When you take out the micromanagement from of the game you basically strip it from its core loop.
The "new feature, of automatic adjusted transport lines", in the matter of number of vehicles assigned to a transport line, seems an interesting choice at the beginning, but it removes an essential part of the gameplay - managing the transport efficiently. Not only adds it more intransparency, but the trucks always bug in addition, not leaviung the depot. With trains it is even more problematic, during the tutorial I couldnt manage to have a constant stream of lumber, since the trains would leave the depot; all connected and waiting goods.
Loosing that level of control and management, in contrast to previous IG, it makes the game feel shallow, washed out of part its core gameplay.
How to remove trucks anyway? Bought once never get rid of them again?

They should improve the UX, like faster access to the transport lines, like clicking though the transport lines with arrow keys, and sorting them correctly 1, 2, 3, ...11, 12, 13, 14.. instead of 1, 11, 12..., 2,21, 23, .... the organizations and transparency would be better. Also, that new windows always pop in th ecenter of view is annoying. Wehen I create a new transport line ALWAYS I have to move the popup aside, since I need the view on the map to perform the setup action.
Adding ressouce production field, like fields for farms or oil fields should autoallign or snap to each other, currently it takes looong to have some somwhat clean placed.

I have also some issues with the UX design language. E.G. a grey button for adding stops to a transport line? that doesnt feel right.

IG4 is an attempt to "improve" IG2 but ends up derailing the original game by disgraceful terrain that makes roads and rail construction ugly, by making production and product delivery more complicated than necessary What a bomb. This early version really needs help.

It's enjoyable enough if you like to play Early Access games like this. It has enough to play, but also has enough to develop into the future. Probably needs a but of a UX pass on setting up and managing lines - for example, it feels like the lines are disconnected from production because you have to change the delivery values of both (or all if it is a multi step chain). You also don't have the ability to see cumulative production or demand, so you will find yourself forever clicking around and adding up values and checking if you have balanced them. The demand also changes rapidly too; in fact, this is half of the game play and pretty much makes this "calculator tycoon". But, that said, the game looks good, pays well, does what it should at this stage of development and shows promise. It just about gets a thumbs up from me.
Something like Transport Fever 2 is more refined and simpler, but then that is a transport game, this is an industry production game. There's a difference.

There are things the Devs are currently working on and i think the game play and objective of the game out ways the "bugs". After some time learning the game and for the price its 100% worth it.

Some good points are:
I enjoy the grind. You need 3 buildings to make some resources but i love how its not easy, it means there's always an objective in supplying the towns. As the town grows it wants more and extra items. At the beginning money can be slow but just use the Harbour and Airport for extra cash, don't limit your production just sell it.

Tips:
Traffic is a massive thing if you don't plan your roads and space your buildings out. Don't have a building connected to a main route, it will 100% get clogged later on.
I currently have around 650-800 trucks from 4 Depots with 150-200 each. After they finish a task they all head back.

Only collect what the town needs and only supply what it needs unless you're going to sell it. Stops over producing warnings and makes sure there's actually something to pick up.

When you create a Production/Resource it doesn't give the max amount so 1000 is actually 1500 is you just type 9999 it will show the max per year, also you get more when you dont split the year into quarters.

Bad points i've found so far:
Recently the game will randomly close. Once youre far into the game with a lot going on it just stops. Ive turned my graphic from Epic down to medium to try stabilise it but every 10 minutes closes.
The town wants 11k food but the Medium Groceries store can only hold max 1600? I don't know if we unlock bigger but i haven't yet and need the storage now.
Theres no way to alter routes such as 1 way or traffic lights to stop congestion.
Game has started to crash real bad as i progress and require more into the towns and it took 7 minutes to load.
Im now running on 20fps and need to run the game with the hidden HUD.

You have to place a building down first before you can see what it needs to produce. So ive had to save it and keep loading to find out. Ive been told below comment this has since been improved.

The bulldozer is the worst. I have a full map of train tracks and roads and i have to click 1 by 1 by 1 a single piece at a time so i can change the layout.


Overall since making new maps and learning the games mechanics I'm now flying. near £150 million in the bank and learnt to spread everything out so no traffic. Im concerned about the frames the more trucks i need and the save/load wait times as it grows but worth the buy IMO

hate it already this zone rubbish needs to go
not building stations is just stupid
the welcome thing wont got away its annoying
think i can list alot more i dont like its nothing close to ig2 which was fantastic
i now get why i hate it so much its almost a rip off of transport fever its almost the same front end

its a good start.
Needs bigger maps and cities to demand more variety of goods. You need to fulfil the city demands for it to grow and it needs to grow before it begins demanding other more interesting and complex products. It is tedious to always have to begin with agriculture to get things going when I want to be a dirty industrialist, not a farmer.
That said its already worth a try and I'm glad to have supported the devs in early access.

Was looking forward to this. And after about 8 hours, all it made me do is reinstall Transport Fever 2 and i've been stuck on that since. It made me appreciate all the things that Industry Giant does wrong. Cities feel dead outside of your transport vehicles (where are the people buying all these products?? traffic? just life in general) and then theres a very little reward for doing things right. Vehicles are all barebones. I thought the delays wouldve improved the replayability of this game. All it did is make me realize i had an itch i needed to scratch with management sims and now im fulfilling it elsewhere with little desire to play this anymore.

But hey got my $20 so you win in the end. LMAO

I think my thoughts on this align with what the other reviewers are saying, there's no game here. I find the whole game to be particularly boring as there's nothing to aspire to or progress toward and seems to be missing the essence of what the previous games were loved for. I also found that the tutorial cannot be completed as it expects you to do something specific rather than progress based on the success condition of the action (i.e. the fact you're moving resource between places as opposed to checking to see whether you've connected everything together, which can be done in multiple ways and may have already been completed in previous steps). I myself set up my industries in a particular way using a single rail connection to connect everything together but the game seemed to be wanting me to have multiple rail connections with more direct routes and therefore would not move forward on that basis. I also find many things to be clunky like the delete tool which forces you to delete a track or road section by section rather than giving you an option to delete the entire track/road. I do feel that there's promise under the hood though and I think, given some further time and work from the developers, this could turn into something as great as the former games. I'll be following with great interest as it moves forward.

As I understand, stores covers all costs, so, keep eyes on whole process.
Let's see where this game ends but it's promising.

It is just an EA, sure... but it is lacking so much.

No compare to the legend of Industry Giant Gold Edition or any of the ones before.
There is just no way to make UIG or any Joowood published games better.. even after so many years.

Nice try though.. hope that you will fix it all.. like adjust price at stores.. blanace the game.. fix bugs.. fix graphic... just fix it..

TLTR: Go buy Industry Giant 2 - Gold edition instead and play that. Much more refined.

It's difficult to recommend a game that regularly crashes to desktop. I get that this is early access and that devs can't test on every permutation of machine, but yeesh. I can play games with vastly more demanding resource requirements without problem, but Industry Giant 4 will CTD five to fifteen minutes into the game. Neat.

With the game instability aside, during the few minutes between crashes that I can play, I'm sufficiently annoyed by the clunky UI, the absence of snapping (I'd like my farms/logging camps/whatever to snap together neatly), and other little twiddly things that I don't *want* to play.

I'll give the devs a chance to patch the game extensively and come back to this review.

Currently, don't touch it! This is more of a tech demo than a game. It needs at least another year or more of work and adjustments to the game mechanics and technology. Compared to IndustryGiant2, it's even a step backwards in terms of some of the mechanics. No idea who came up with this, but it wouldn't hurt to look outside the box at representatives of the genre...

- maps far too small
- hardly any vehicle selection
- no production statistics (input/consumption) wtf!?
- techtree hidden behind paywall!
- technology from the 90s!
- awkward laying of roads and tracks
- transport to and from industries cannot be selected, but is predetermined?!
- construction limit for production
- construction limit for cities
- zones for individual areas and companies, thus artificially limiting the expansion options
- technically inadequate
- hardly any setting options
- graphics from 10 years ago
- textures don't fit and are washed out

I don't understand the transport mechanic, nor why placing buildings takes a giant flat square out of the map. That, and the map is incredibly small compared to the build size. it's just...not fun. And if you like clean setups, it's irritating. The UI feels clunky and the placement of selections feel weird. This is all in addition to the HORRIBLE FPS. The constant choppy lag despite having a sweet setup is the absolute worst. It makes it unplayable. This is not ready for release. They need more honest feedback from beta players.

The game crashes about once every 10 minutes, controls and lines are not intuative and the maps/cities are very limited. However the game looks awesome (If it works). I'm in love with the demand system. This game feels like a crossover between Rise of Industry and Transport fever 2.

Basicly the game feels faaar to early to be open acces, I'll revisit it later

At this price point it's an ok buy. The game looks very nice and is fun, but is fairly simplistic.

Also there are some questionable design choices, especially the ginormous size of industries compared to the the scaled down geography. This makes every facility chop deep into the terrain which looks ridiculous but also results in possible issues with road and train connections.

Ideally the facilities would just be smaller, or have some modularity so they can follow the terrain features.

And I'm not sure I'm a fan of the zoning system, seems like a cheap mechanic to create an artifical challenge.

ok, concept is nice reminds me of transport fever, but needs a lot of improvements. why do trucks only carry up to 200 units? the map is full of trucks and why trucks have to return to the depot? if there's a storedege in one of the plants trucks should work all the time to meet demand.

Refunded it, the region system feels weird, i can only build 2 farms in a farming region, the ui is cluttered and feels unintuitive. Maps feel quite small and claustrophobic

I am a sucker for industry games, but i should really stop buying games that basically do the EXACT same thing but much worse as other games i already own..... (InfraSpace, Anno 1800, Soviet Republic, to a name a few)

The game in its current state more of the alpha than something you can play and enjoy. Plenty of bugs and core systems are not working well. I can recommend Captain of Industry to scratch the itch while you are waiting for this one to reach its playable state (I would say at least 1 year is needed).

1. Localization is bad, and by localization I mean English version. Devs don't play test it in English, neither is QA. Some labels are incorrect, tutorial is misleading etc. (btw you need to follow tutorial step by step they didn't bother with proper state checking, placing building B ahead of A would not fly)

2. No proper map grid and/or snapping. Probably the worst UX in any building game I've ever played and I played a lot. Buildings are bulky and annoying to place, Game has no planning mode or move tool. You placed bunch of factories but can't connect a road because turn is too sharp. Or your buildings are colliding by 1 pixel with each other? Too bad, now you need to delete them all at 50% money loss. Also all streets and factories are unaligned due to this, rip if you like neat building placement and triggered by a spaghetti connections.

3. Building are huge, map is small, 3d landscape is not to scale. Factory size is around the same as whole town. Feels claustrophobic

4. Stats and graphics are bare-bone and lying. You can have fully supplied city and on the city screen it will display 60-70% of needs covered but in town statistic it will be 100%. Building's needs will display 80% of satisfaction on click but on colored map overlay it will be colored as 20% etc. It such a mess. The management games are effectively Excel the gaming and they completely fumbled the most core part of the game - coherent and clear data display.

5. Most of the basic operations take way too many clicks to complete. I would not dare to play it at scale, fixing logistic would be like playing cookie clicker.

6. Speaking of logistic, they need to rework it completely. Instead of normal person route where you assign a transport to deliver a goods from A to B they ask you for an amount of goods to transport per year. Game will auto-reserve trucks to fulfill the order and line will stop upon completion. Any change in demand supply or routes with force you to update this numbers. Back to clicking I guess.

Performance is fine, but I didn't run it into the late game.

In a game about production lines, transport logistics etc. The devs said that they didn't want to go into too much detail with regards to train lines and are going to leave it to modders to add that stuff in. To me this is a deal breaker, its a simulation game and fidelity is crucial for these types of games, particularly ones where creating efficient logistical networks is crucial to optimising profits etc. And these features are commonplace in many games like this now too.

Leaving it to mods is lazy and dull in my opinion and its a pattern I've noticed across the games industry lately which I don't like. Go play Rise of Industry instead.

Other points of critique that added up to me refunding this game include;
- Even the largest map still felt very small
- The maps were like a "board" but the edges looked abysmal. With very low-res terrain textures behind the main game.
- Even a teeny tiny incline can make things difficult with placing the smallest shopes
- The game hasn't really heard of right angles with roads
- No terraforming / flattening etc tools to alleviate the pain of these slopes and inclines

The game is laughably bad. There is no chance a human being tried to play this game and said yea its fine go ahead and release it ... It takes so much effort to connect 2 roads that are 10 meters apart .. The game is so bad and nowhere near the gem of the old times , save your money, there are way better game of this kind.

Soy fan del Industry Giant 2 y este me parece un digno sucesor a pesar de estar en acceso anticipado.

Что же... Все детство я проиграл в Транспортного гиганта, Индустриального гиганта 1-2, на рубеже веков. Сейчас же - вышел 4 гигант, и вот что хочется сказать - на текущий момент это бледная тень того же Transport Fever 2
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Плюсы индустриального гиганта 4.0:
+ Возможность микроменеджмента
+ Гораздо более интересный геймплей с построением логистических цепочек по сравнению с TF2. (там предприятия выставлены игрой самостоятельно и ты чисто прокладываешь пути туда-сюда, не более)
+ Города забавно развиваются, просят новые товары, постепенно растущий спрос
Минусы:
- Ужасный ландшафт. Ну серьезно, когда я ставлю предприятие - ну вообще не хочу видеть резкие обрывы по краю постройки. Итого на мой взгляд видно несоответствие масштаба предприятия по сравнению с ландшафтом. Обратимся к тому же TF2 - там есть карта высот, возможность выравнивать ландшафт.
- Невозможность ставить промежуточные точки на маршруте. Пример: 1960 год, у меня уже 100 грузовиков. 2 предприятия рядом. Я не могу развести их на 2 разных дороги, они все ломятся на 1 дорогу и создают узкое горлышко.
- Невозможность микроменеджмента путей. Я не могу сделать ни развязки, ничего.
- Поезда тупят. Несчадно. Оказывается поезд не может найти путь если на его пути стоит предприятие.
- ЗАЧЕМ ТРАНСПОРТ ВЕЧНО ЕДЕТ В ДЕПО?!?!?!
- Я не понимаю почему я не могу использовать поезда для доставки товаров прямо в город. Тот же железнодорожный терминал поставить отдельно рядом с предприятием. Дайте мне вариативность доставки товаров. Я не люблю машины, я люблю поезда.
- Нету дорогих моему сердцу анимаций появления нового транспорта. Потеря настроения игры - 100 очков.
- нету вызова со стороны экономики.

Я понимаю что игра только выкатилась в бету, я многое готов списать. Но камон, на текущий момент игра даже хуже своего прорадителя. Аналог что я затер до дыр - TF2 - смотрится гораздо круче. Я хотел видеть конкурента этой игре в лице IG4, но увы...

Was expecting great things, but very disappointed. Could not even get through the confusing tutorial. Graphics settings all over the place, small map, terrible UI, confusing line and production creation. requesting refund.

It's a total dissapointment. Some said; graphics are great, even graphics are not reaching Cities Skylines level. Game flow was better in Industry Giant 2 I've played 30-years ago.
Instead of "paid early access"; It should be at least free beta version; game publishers should avoid publishing this kind of not-ready enough games expected for a long time from community.
Sad..

Disappointing to say the least.

Music is reused from Industry Giant 2, save for a few new songs. Great music, just would have expected some new bangers to go with the gameplay.

Maps WAY TOO SMALL!

Buildings are a good scale, but with the small maps they dominate the surrounding environment.

A whopping 3 maps with a 4th listed (IG2 had like 50? 60 maps? And they were all unique with their own challenges)

Overall, it feels like an attempt was made, but its just fallen SO flat. Awaiting refund as I type this.

Looks very promising.
Like:
- It appears that the developers put a lot of effort into looks. Movement of vehicles look good, semi truck turn does look realistic.
- Scenery, the cities look way above the expected level for a tycoon type game.
- Despite its very fresh early access, it seems playable, did not see any blocker bug or performance hog.
- Not sure about the scope of the production chain, but it seems there is already a lot of industry types.
- Reduced early scope of products. Problem with previous IG games was that it was hard to decide what to make, all cities wanted everything... now they start wanting like 3 products for starter. I am not sure how reduced the scope will stay

Needs work
- Logistics is very rudimentary, like it was made for kindergarten children. Trucks/train wagons come with bare trailers, then they pick trailer type depending on cargo (even that is very limited, like grain goes into same type as bread, while grain used to travel in bulk type). Come on... trailers and trucks should bought separately according to cargo, like bulk, box, liquid, flatbed...
- Line control misses basic features like "only drive there when there is cargo to load" or "wait until loaded"
- Cargo capacity is in what? Units? Can I really load the same amount of units from steel and from sawdust to a truck?
- Very-very small maps... like you put a few industries and thats it.
- Very limited transports, like 3 trucks and 1 train (8 wagon and 4 wagon train does not count 2)
- Limitation in track slope... trains cannot climb like 20% grades.
- Since the map is too small, hence the terrain is too uneven due to reduced scale. You cannot plop down a building without it being half embedded into the terrain, so road / track connections may be in the air.

In general, this is very promising. The result depends on the developers attitude. This game is really an early access, very reduced in content and currently with these tiny maps, would not provide too much gameplay. Well, price was set accordingly, so no complains yet, I can wait for this to ripe. There are many types of early acces, those who really do add content in the next years and those who just waned to sell an empty unfinished game skeleton and consider it done. So we will see.