Sinister City

Mediocre hidden-object puzzle game with campy B-movie style and jerky storyline

Casual puzzle game with mediocre graphics.

I'm not sure why this game ended up in my library, I probably would never play something like this today but apparently I put 8 hours into it and finished it some time ago.

Probably worth a quick spin if you can get it very cheap, but there are so many similar games out there now that are probably better quality and a better use of your time.

I will not call this a great game.

The hidden object sections range from easy to what are you talking about.
Its very short and it often has you wondering what your supposed to do.

What this game is is, is also a parody of a hidden object game.
There are moments that are just so weird, that they get either a laugh or a snicker.
And that is good enough.

literally my childhood game
i love it

For a five hour game, I thought this game was a fun satire point & click game, decent but cheesy voice acting, and aged animations. The ending was a funny twist though! I think it was a refreshing spin on Dracula's usual story being retold these days, where it's Dracula chasing after his lost love. Instead, it's Dracula wanting his daughter to be marry someone who knows what he's doing in show and business. Some of the puzzles were tedious but fun to play through. Except for the jewel puzzle, that took me longer than expect and I was like, "Oh my goshhhh I wanna skip this," but I needed to finish it so I can get the achievement for completing all the puzzles without hints. My favourite character though was Dracula's wife. I love her beauty, elegance, and everything. It would've been nice to know what her name is though since I don't think they gave her a name other than presenting her as his wife. This was fun to play despite the mixed reviews!

This game is so delightfully awful. The bonkers story with the insane dialogue and the dead, soulless stare of the characters trapped in bad 2014 graphics... perfection. There's no way this is not a parody, and it's a good one. Legitimately funny. I enjoyed Sinister City way more than all the bad HOGs that take themselves way too seriously.

+ Puzzles aren't frustrating
+ Story is a parody of Vampire genre so don't take it seriously
+ Achievements are glitchy that they unlock even if you don't meet the requirements lol (easy 100%)
+ Nice music

- Needs tinkering to run on modern systems

A rather unique hidden-object-game that subverts many HOG tropes.
For starters, you play as a male protagonist looking for his fiance, which is already somewhat rare in this genre. Even more rare is how deliberately goofy the game is. It's both a parody and a satire on vampire fiction, with lots of references to vampire books and movies. It's all rather tongue-in-cheek and breaks the fourth wall frequently.

The game is also entirely in 3D, except of course for the minigames and backgrounds, complete with animated talking. By the way, all characters voice-acted (and the voice acting isn't half bad either! It really fits the campy style of the game).
There are many hidden object scenes and only a few puzzles, but it's a great game for people who prefer to focus on "look and find" puzzles that actually have a bit of challenge to them.

The only downside is that the game is a bit janky. There are times where you have to leave to the menu then return to the game to avoid a glitch that doesn't let you click on anything. Sometimes, areas for you to search aren't immediately obvious unless you click around or play with highlights enabled. Also, I have played this game a few times and discovered that if I uninstalled the game, then re-installed it, all of my achievements are wiped out and I have to obtain them anew (maybe this bug has been fixed by now, however).

All in all, I recommend this for the sheer novelty and campiness alone. HOGs are often cliche'd, serious and cozy, but this HOG breaks the mould.

This game is NOT for everyone, but if you are a fan of campy horror or B-Movies, then this might be right up your alley.
The graphics are dated, and the gameplay is very standard hidden-object, but the plot, voice acting and dialog is really funny.

I don't want to give everything away, but suffice to say that this is NOT a standard Vampire tale. It's quirky, campy, silly, & fun.

Again, not for everyone, so if what I wrote doesn't tickle your fancy, then this game is definitely not for you.

After going about the discussion section to see how I can launch the game, I finally was able to play the game. It's such a cute little ironical game about vampires. Love it!

PROS:
- Reminds me of Dracula: Origin;
- Interesting story;
- Fast-travelling map;
- HO with various puzzles;
- Achievements and trading cards.

CONS:
- Sometimes, you click on the right location, but it doesn't help you get there or the HO won't trigger. My solution: You got to click the menu (globe) icon and click Continue, once that done John (your protagonist) can access that area or puzzle.

Even if it's complicated to make the game run, I'd say it's worthwhile. The game is packed with good laughs and great puzzles. If you like vampires, this is a game for you.

This game is unplayable. At first I thought it was because I played it on linux and proton just didn't cover it, but I tried it on windows and it doesn't work. According to the discussion boards, the game has many, many bugs and the developers won't fix it. That's why it's cheap, though it's broken and being cheap doesn't change that. Why not just take it down so you don't have a broken game attached to your company?

An older, and somewhat unusual HOPA game. I played through the casual mode with only one very minor bug that required me to go out to the main menu and then back in again. I lost no data and all my achievements triggered correctly both in-game and in Steam. The puzzles/games are definitely on the easy side.

The most unusual feature of the game is that HO "scenes" work differently than in most HOPA games. In Sinister City, there are a few random objects that can be picked up as you go, but generally you are asked to perform a task (for example, fix an air conditioner), and then you have to search the area for the pieces listed. The area can be as large as 2 screens with each screen having 2-3 places (boxes, junk piles, wardrobes etc.) to search. The cursor does NOT change shape, which makes the situation more challenging.

I strongly recommend playing on Casual mode first, just to get a feel for the game, and because the sparkles for key features is important until you're used to the mechanics. I disliked the way it worked at first, but later found it a nice change from the norm. Each major area has at least one HO scene that has both a word list and objects from the "task". In each case, the word list must be completed to uncover the last of the missing task objects (which may be screws, ladder rungs, etc.). HO scenes are suited to the location.

The game is actually quite funny. As the story progresses, you realize that the whole thing is a satire. While the humour doesn't always hit its mark, overall, it's not bad. There are small homages to the genre (vampire fiction and movies) scattered throughout the game.

Overall: Better than I expected, though clearly an older game. I ended up being quite happy with my fifty cent purchase (it was 50% off in the bundle). Go in with moderate expectations and take it for the deliberately cheesy set-up that it is.

The game is generally good. There are some funny moments. What is what a vampire wants the most? To Suck blood? Or to be a movie star? Despite the idea of the story is quite good, the specific steps are a little repetitive. It is usually necessary to find three spots in the places, and to find objects and some HO. And then next step or some minigame. It is not boring but a little repetitive. Graphics is not so bad. HOS are darker and a little gray. My game experience is quite good but I could not finished the game because I could not click the last bulb in a HOS. I saw the bulb (it was behind a moved stone), it shined, but I could not clicked it.
My general recomendation is NO. The funny story and graphics is quite good. I could not finish the game because of the defect and from discussions I understand that devs are not so suportive. The game is old so I partly understand.
YES only for HOG enthusiasts and collectors. Maybe the game will work for you.

In Iron Man 3 when it turned out that the Mandarin was actuallya down & out actor named Trevor SlatteryI was pretty p***ed off to say the least. This is because they ruined this character's first silver screen appearance by making a mockery of him. Dracula though has long since been overused making appearances in books, movies, and HOGs probably somewhere around the thousands at this point, so it was nice to see him in a different role for a change. This combined with the game's cheesy jokes are what tipped this review to the more positive end for me, because lord knows after I encountered a game breaking bug about a third of the way through the game during a cutscene of all places I was ready to hit that dislike button so freaking quick. I didn't though, because this game's unique twist, dad jokes, and poorly dubbed dialogue made this game memorable for me.

Plus with coming in at £0.79 it's the same price as all those sh**ty achievement spam games. Only here you're getting a point & click/hidden object game with a decent enough story played out to you with the help of voice actors. It's an all around good time no thinking required and sometimes that's exactly what you need.

Achievements: All possible and easy-- though missable. Multiple playthroughs may be necessary, but it's a very short game.

+Silly, B-Movie plot
+Cheap(especially on sale)
+Has cards
+Does not take itself seriously

-Short(completable in ~1.5 hrs)

Sinister City, as of writing this, has mixed reviews. That, I think, is atrocious. The whole premise of the game is so delightfully absurd that it becomes hilarious. It does not take itself seriously in a world where hidden object games seem to take themselves way too seriously. The voice acting is bad, and the settings are weird. Nothing quite makes sense. That being said, this game is clearly meant as parody. It's so bad it's funny-- does that make sense? Sinister City embraces the cliches of hidden object games and the vampire genre and mocks them. I love it.

This isn't a horror or scarey game. It's more like a spoof with funny vampires.
Clunky interface. I had some buggy issues in the start of the game. Disappearing graphics (like whited out boxes in some parts of the 'hog' scene) and when I was in a 'hog' scene at this part not long from the start every time I clicked on an item it would go out of the 'hog' back to the scene and I had to keep clicking back and forth to finish.
I fixed both things by just going to the main menu and back in the game but at first I had to do it a couple of times.

After that I didn't run into any more buggy stuff like that.

Graphics are a bit clunky. ( older game though)

I didn't take this game to seriously and just played it for something to do.

The game is short. I think it says I played for 2hrs but I'd say you can finish this in less then that. Those times are reflecting me trying to figure out what was going on with the bug parts and leaving game up when I afk'd so this is a really short game if you play straight through.

Humor is rather silly though I laughed a couple of times because it was so campy. Dialog a bit corny and over the top and not particular well acted. One vampire had such a terrible voice but I think that's supposed to be funny because he is an actor in a children's show. .

There is one voice I know I have heard before, he's an actor and that voice is unmistakeable however I can't place the name. I didn't wait to read the whole credits so I may just look that up. It's kind of fun to hear a recognizable voice in games.

The Hogs, nothing special, kind of silly and uneventful. Puzzles? uhm not really.

you find yourself clicking a lot because the mouse icon has no visual changes to them like object icon, area icon and so on. I played in advance mode though didn't get that achieve because at one point I simply clicked off advance in the main menu options to see what the other mode was like and then switched it back when I realized advanced mode for this game is better.

anyway I'd say don't bother to purchase this game unless it's in some bundle sale ( which is how I got it) and it comes down to under a dollar or less.

There is nothing Sinister about this game.

happy gaming~

Okay, i will try to keep it short. But, to be clear, it's 1€ game, don't expect high quality and unforgettable experience. And, mixed review are right, i wouldn't recommend this game, but still, i am giving it thumb up. Why? Just because :) I will explain it:

Pros (+):
+ 1€ game
+ nice story (i expected worse), but still nothing extra
+ puzzles are fine, but mostly just find hidden objects
+ funny jokes, lines and references (i dont't want to spoil anything, but, you know, the line: "Thanks, Mom, I'm going to kidnap Nina back!" is not something you can use everyday :D
+ around 2 hours to finish the story
+ achievements (you can get almost all of them in one play)

Cons (-):
- bugs (i found some, but they can be solved by restarting the game)
- not really game in which you have to use your brain (especially in story, just let it go, enjoy that simple story)
- some of hidden objects puzzles are quite dark and hard to find some stuff (and also, you have to move some objects, because there is another object under them)
- that's all, you can't nitpicking every single thing in 1€ game (sorry, but it is true - indie game for that price can't have the best graphics and overwhelming soundtrack)


There's one more thing. Logic in some puzzles. Like, you have to install some computer software, but you have to find 10 floppy disks in the office. Well, one is in trash, because, why not. You will have to prepare a tea for psychologist. But you have to find teabags. And they are everywhere. Literally. Her office is messy, same as she is. So many issues, not even Windows Vista had those. But as i said, relax :) Enjoy that story as it is. Again, i will mention the price, which is pretty nice for this game. I've played much worse hidden objects game, which were more expensive and even sh*ttier in story and bugs.

So, that's it. Mixed reviews, so this is obviously not the best game, if you are looking for hidden objects game. But if you are in a good mood, and have 1€ to spend, you can spend it here :) Trailer is showing everything what you need to see to decide, if you will buy this game. But it is worth for that good time it can bring :)

I recommend this game *if* you get it cheap, i.e for like 50 cents etc.

The good
Some of the puzzles are challenging
Oddball sense of humour
Can be completed quickly
Decent trading cards/badges

The bad
Brings nothing new to the HO table
Graphics are sub-par
Some of the hidden objects don't match up to their descriptions

Your girlfriend disappeared and you end up to chase her in her hometown, full of vampires and discovering that her dad, the chief, isn't ready to let her go to a human. In other words, she'll be wed to a vampire the next morning. Your only way is to convince him that you're the one for her...

Sinister City has probably one of the worst plots in HO games if you take that seriously. In reality, the plot is a great parody of horror stories as the father wants to be an actor, the mother is a powerful businesswoman and that every vampire met is friendly.

The gameplay is the same as other games of the genre: list of items, objects to find and to use, puzzles to solve. Everything is quite easy. However, there is a game-breaking bug at the beginning and the only way to get past it is to exit the game and relaunch it. If you don't know that, you may be frustrated to be stopped so early in the story and that you can't do anything about it. Once past that, you can enjoy the game that isn't so bad as you could fear.

The graphics are correct, even if the vampires aren't really terrifying as they should but as it's a parody, it's normal to have them behaving comically. The soundtrack is correct too.

I played the game more than a year ago and I suppose that you can feel that with my review. But I remember clearly that I said to people: Once you get past the famous bug and if you can handle a silly plot, you'll enjoy the game. So, while Sinister City isn't the greatest game out there, it's still a good moment to pass. Other titles from JetDog are better (Frankenstein: Master of Death is the best example) but well, Sinister City will not make a hole in your wallet and will not hurt you.

Just by looking at the reviews for this game, I knew I was in for a cringeworthy title. Everything in this game was cringy, but I still enjoyed it. It's like a Bollywood movie, complete with bad acting and scenery, but it's part of the joke. Plus, puzzles and mini games.

You play as John, who is searching for his bride Nina, who is being held captive by her father Count Orlock. You must solve puzzles and unlock the path to free her and complet Orlock's wish: to become a famous Hollywood actor. Not much more can be said about that, pretty much tells it's own story right there.

Aside from the acting, I enjoyed the puzzles because some actually were challenging.

P.S. How is Ipkis married?

The positive reviews that convinced me to give it a try claim that this game is misunderstood satire. What they don't say is that it's bad, poorly made, and glitchy as hell "satire" (let's be honest though, this is not satire, this is a parody). Even its puzzles are a laugh (to a point where one could theorize that maybe it wasn't intended as a parody of the vampire genre but of HOGs -hidden object games- in general).

Yes, it has a couple of funny moments here and there and yes, it's real cheap, but that doesn't make it a good game that's worth your time.

If you get it at it's current sale price (0,09 cents) you won't lose any money, since it has trading cards, but again, this doesn't make it a good game, just an affordable one.

If you like over-the-top, absurd comedies that feature vampires and don't mind glitches that could prevent you from finishing the game, then yes, it's worth it. You'll get a couple of chuckles and I have to admit, a funny HOG is a rare and refreshing thing. But that's about it.

I am tempted to give it a thumbs-up for it's campy glory, but it has some of the worst glitches I've ever seen in HOGs and that's one of the biggest faux-pas a game of this genre can have. I can stand bad art, bad or non existent voice acting, a flimsy plot and random fetch quests. But I have to be able to play the game, to say that it's at least mediocre, don't you think?

I've played many hidden object games but have never bothered reviewing any of them, partly because I think everybody generally gets the idea by now and more or less knows what to expect, but also because, with a few exceptions, there's usually so little difference between the content and quality that were I to write reviews for each and every one I'd essentially end up trying to find dozens of different ways to say the exact same thing. (By the by, just about anything published by Artifex Mundi should see you right if you're looking to get into the genre) But I'm writing one for Sinister City as I feel I need to come to its defence a little and share my own take on it.

It seems like such a cop-out when people say the only reason somebody doesn't like something is because they don't understand it. It's sort of a thinly-veiled way of calling someone stupid rather than accept they might understand it perfectly but just not like it, that they simply have a different preference than you. But after reading a lot of the negative reviews, this is one occasion where I actually feel like some people kinda didn't get it. As pretentious and w*nky as it is to say, there is a difference between something being parody, pastiche and just plain bad, and this game dips its toes into all three, which is where I think a lot of confusion comes from.

Let's get it out of the way and say what needs to be said, many parts of this game are bad, unintentionally so. Graphically it's kind of somewhere between looking like a PS2 and PS3 era game and there were quite a few times in the hidden object sections when I wished everything was clearer or more distinct. In other games in the genre these sections can have a more artistic slant with their high quality renders of interesting scenes and items. Here, everything is far more workmanlike and pretty forgettable; a straight on view of some open cupboards or top down into a box with a small handful of items in it. They don't feel hugely inspired. But worst of all are the bugs and glitches that plague the game. It happened to me a few times where some strange artifacting would appear in the form of white blocks across the screen and completely obscure my view, or every time I'd click anywhere in a hidden object scene it would kick me out of it forcing me to manually enter the scene repeatedly after every object I found. In fairness, this only happened to me in the second stage of the game then never bothered me again after (exiting to the main menu then hitting Continue eventually seemed to fix this for me. In some cases I think Steam pop-ups may have triggered this to happen, but I'm not completely sure). They were the only issues I had personally, but others have complained of far worse, like losing save data every time they closed the game or buggy achievements not registering properly, or in some cases, not even being able to start the game at all. And if anyone had these issues then they'd be absolutely right to give it a bad review as their experience with the title. But, thankfully, I had a far better time with it. Well... eventually.

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You play as a sort of Tom Cruise lookalike trying to find his kidnapped fiancé and being lead to Sinister City in the search. A kindly old hotel receptionist tells him to stay away from there, that it's a vampire city, and the guy doesn't even bat an eyelid at the mention of vampires. Nor does he when he's invited to a session of telepathic communication to try tracking her down, he just accepts the offer and follows an old man into a darkened back room. I think pretty much everyone who plays it either laughs their *ss off at these points or else says it's stupid and loses all hope for the game, I know they were certainly my reactions. But then I got to a point where it just sort of clicked with me. I realised they understood these games are dumb and their stories make no sense, so they start having a little fun and going all out ridiculous with it. The head vampire kidnaps his own daughter to arrange for her to marry a kid's TV presenter to vicariously live out his own failed ambitions of movie stardom that he's secretly harboured for centuries. Oscar Wilde, this is not. But I love that they have fun with it rather than being so serious like most of the other games and I was surprised at how much I laughed at some genuinely funny moments in it. If you have to make a crazy, nonsense story, I think it's way better to go funny with it instead of trying to be respectable with how legit you are with your craft, and I applaud them for making that move here.

Like I said, if anyone had a bad experience with this on a technical level then I can't argue with that, and to begin with I was right there with them. But by the end this game thoroughly won me over and I had a great couple of hours with it. With some funny moments, some interesting hidden object play that I eventually came around to, and at least an attempt at a new variety of mini games for the genre, I can easily say this was the best 9 cents I've ever spent.

While the game itself as a hidden object game is not bad, it's the bugs and glitches that makes this game difficult to recommend. The game is simple, the graphics are basic and the sound/voice acting are mediocre compared to others of the same genre that I've played. I hit a couple graphical bugs where the screen had white boxes covering up part of the hidden object scene. I also had a bug where after finding an object in the hidden object scene it kicked me out of the scene and back to the main game. This made it very tedious and frustrating, when casual gaming should not bring up these types of situations and emotions. The goal is save your girlfriend from a vampire in Sinister City. The game would be easily recommended even with its below par graphics and sound if the bugs were fixed. I played the game twice to get all achievements, and both times I experienced these bugs.

Game Information

"Sinister City" is a Hidden Object Puzzle Adventure game. The game was developed and published by JetDogs Studios.

The Game Review

Game Visuals

I want to mention that the visuals in the game are well done. The visuals can be adjusted in the game's option menu.

Game Audio

I want to mention that audio for the game is well done. Even though the audio is somewhat simplistic and repetitive. The audio can be adjusted in the game's option menu as well.

Gameplay

There are two different difficulty game modes to choose from: Easy and Advanced.

There is no padlock feature that is available to lock the inventory panel in place to make it stationary. The inventory panel automatically comes stationary.

The hidden object scenes consist of the following: Traditional word lists and Find 'x' amount. Some of these hidden object scenes may require little or no interactions. (Please be aware that in one of the hidden object scenes, there is a bug/glitch, it causes you to exit the scene every time; when you collect the item. Reinstalling the game would fix the problem.)

The puzzles are fairly easy to solve without having the need to skip any of them.

There are seventeen different achievements to unlock from playing the game. Each of these achievements does come with some requirements that need to be completed before they can be unlocked.

Miscellaneous

There are five different trading cards to collect. Only three of those trading cards are given out by the game. There are several ways to get the rest of the trading card: Purchased from Steam's Community Market; Trade with friends; Booster Packs and its' Booster Pack Creator.

Final thoughts: I have found the game enjoyable to a certain extent. Even though there was a glitch/bug in the game. The replay value for the game is low. I would not recommend this game.

Sinister City is a ghoulish adventure that will frighten you to the bone, seize your soul, and cause your blood to run cold. You will spend the entire hour or so of this game in constant fear and...Whoops!

Got my intros mixed up.

Your fiance has been kidnapped by a vampire! Are you a bad enough dud to rescue your fiance?! Action and adventure await in Sinister City!

Hmm..Nope...That one kinda sucks too.

Truth is, there's not much to discuss when it comes to Sinister City. Not too long ago, this game was on sale for around 10 cents. On top of that, it has cards, so you're all but guaranteed to profit off of the purchase. Therefore, I'm going to assume that you already own this game, and are just reading this review because you assume there will be some funny jokes.


You know what they say about assumptions right?

In the interest of being "helpful" I'll talk about the actual game. Sinister City is a hidden-object puzzler. Look for the object, find the object, click on the object, become a winner. I must warn you though, the objects tend to be hidden. Occasionally there are puzzles to break up the monotony, but nothing too strenuous. For those exceedingly rare situations that you're actually stuck, a handy "HELP!" button is always nearby.

Not all hidden-object games are equal, and Sinister City is IMO an example of a mediocre one. The images are of a lower resolution, which makes objects muddy and difficult to spot. Yeah I know, it sounds ironic when you think about it, but bear with me on this. Another unfortunate technical issue is the prevalence of bugs. These can range from disappearing images to the game no longer properly responding to your inputs. Thankfully, these are usually cleared up by quitting to the main menu. The game saves automatically and constantly, so all you have to fear is those wacky vampires, not the possibility of losing progress.

The following couple paragraphs include SPOILERS!


----SPOILERS----

This next aspect is not so much a complaint about Sinister City, but about adventure games in general. All too often they rely on this logic that is baffling to normal human behavior. At one point in this game you have to find some books so that somebody will talk to you. There is an abandoned bookstand nearby, but the protagonist doesn't want to steal the books. In order to pay for these $20 books, he finds 75 cents in loose change scattered on the ground. If that made too much sense, consider that the protagonist steals a key from the bookstore to open a mailbox.

Sinister City's attempts at humor are also...pretty laughable. Early on the protagonist acquires some vampire hunting equipment. He's getting geared up to kill a vampire, but then some guy points out that not everything is as it seems. The protagonist takes a closer look at a stake he picked up, and he finds the words "MADE IN CHINA" engraved on it. The "Made in China" gag is as old as time, but it doesn't work when written on a stake. A stake is a piece of wood sharpened to a point. It's possible that the Chinese stake is actually made of soft rubber, but wouldn't the protag notice that? Here's a thought: Crosses are also commonly used to fight vampires. So how about having the Cross say "MADE IN CHINA". Eh? Eh? Okay whatever. The point is this, when you're trying to make a gag out of something that's almost impossible to screw up, it doesn't really work. Yes, I have a nasty habit of nitpicking. What can I say? I love talking about mistakes.

----END OF SPOILERS! YOU CAN BREATHE EASY NOW.----


Even with its faults, Sinister City is still an enjoyable romp. It doesn't take itself seriously at all, the voice-acting is amazing, and the game ends before you get tired of it. I'm not usually one to recommend bad games - even the ones that are "purposefully" bad - simply because they take too long to complete. This game delivers on hidden objects and puzzles, which is always nice to have when you're not in the mood for more Counterstrike or DOTA2 or Sakura Angels. It's nothing difficult, but at least it'll give you something to do if you have an hour or so to burn.

"Teletubbies - Vampire Edition"

First thing is that I got this on 90% off so I can't complain due to it's nearly a free game for me.

Good:
- Puzzle works, few of them is fun
- Some non sense jokes deliver fun moment
- Have 3D model and Voiceacting for such budget title
- Hint system quickly recharges

Bad:
- Ridiculous Story
- Fictional characters talking non sense
- Bugs happen sometimes cause white screens or no response for any interactive object, although can be fixed by go back Main Menu and Continue again
- Pathetic voice acting
- Blurry hidden objects mixed with background. Some objects is covered too mcuh by obstacle and cannot be recognised at all
- Some objects are quite different from its description
- 3D model movement is dumb
- Very Challenging to tolerate its story and voiceacting through 2 hours

3/10, considering its trading cards and soundtrack surplus your account, I adjust it to 4.5/10 barely pass.